Below are E-mails and jpegs/pictures from George M. Clifton Golf Design:
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Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 9:55 AM
Hello Mr. Chuddy,
I just received by email your dissertation on Palm Harbor Golf Course and
Palm Coast from Maccurach Golf this morning. Then while I was considering emailing you, my secretary also just sent your latest
email requesting a URL site for improvement updates. I'm so sorry that I'm just receiving these. I understand Maccurach got your
information a while back and thought I had also received it. I'm so pleased to have such a historian keeping a watchful eye
on our progress.
Anyway to bring you up to speed, we're pretty much just in the beginning
stage. The city has done a little clearing and trimming for us while we were ironing out our contract with the golf course
builder. Now they have just recently gotten started over the past two weeks with Thanksgiving cutting into some of this
time. I'm getting ready to head out there today and see how the shaper is shaping things up. I'll make sure to take pictures
as we move along and get those either directly to you or get with the city to see how they would like for me to handle interested
locals such as yourself.
I really enjoyed reading your email this morning and agree we should have
the course blessed prior to opening. I'll make sure to bring along a bottle of scotch to christen the occasion. Until then
down the middle,
George M. Clifton
|Flagler/PalmCoast News-Tribune Saturday , October 4, 2008, Volume 124, No.80, 3 sections
From: Flagler/ Palm Coast News-Tribune, Saturday, October 4, 2008, Volume 124, No. 80, 3 Sections. Article reads:
Golf Course Passing Design Phase
Council members updated on changes, possible rates
By Aaron London Staff Writer
Saying it has been a long time coming, City Manager Jim Landon on Tuesday briefed members of the Palm Coast Citiy Council
about the starus of the Palm Harbor Golf Course.
"As you know, we have been in a design phase for a number of months now," Landon said.
"Were ready to mover forward." Landon said he is excited about the golf course plans.
"I think it's going to be a nice upgrade and really be a boost to this neighborhood," he said.
Golf Course architect George Clifton, from Clifton, Exell and Clifton Golf Design Group, gave a presentation on the basic
elements of the course redesign. "When we first looked at the problem, we had some constraints with the Centex tract>"
he said, referring to the developer who previously owned the golf course property before offering it to the city. "One of
the caveats they had is they had to keep the same number of units." in their developement. Clifton said the first step is
to build a temporary clubhouse facility, utilizing the existing clubhouse parking lot. He then went through the design changes
to the course itself, describing how some holes had been shortened or lengthened or had tee boxes or greens moved. In addition,
drainage issues were addressed in the redisign., but overall the course would only be shortened by 25 yards. Landon said the
Friends of Golf, a grassroots organization that advocated the city's takeover of the property has been involved in the design
phase. "The only issue that I 've really heard is that we have an alternate for the cart path. Landon said. "It is an issue
when it comes to playability right after rains." With design plans ready, Landon said the next step is to get bids on the
actual reconstruction work. "we have also gone out to proposal for namagement conpanies," he said. "That opened last week
and we got zero takers." Plans are to have a private company manage the course, including maintenance. Landon said all of
the management companies that responded to the initial request for bids said the 5 year management contract was to short because
of the burden of buying equipment and setting up operations would be costly.
"The exonomy and tighter credit markets is having an impact on thi, too," Landon said. Landon said while hthe city is
not in a particular hurry to get a management company on board and under contract, it should be involved in the construction
phase of the project. Council member asked Landon how much a round of golf might cost at the course. "Forty to sixty
dollars a round is the number that's been thrown around." he said. "That would include different rates for residents and non-residents.
Council member Mary DiStefano was not pleased with the answer. "I'm just a little concerned about the cost to golf,"
she said. "I think for a municipal golf course, I thought we were trying to be a little less expensive." Landon said
the goal is to be less expensive, adding that until a management company is found, what course rates would be is unknown.
He added that economics should be the determining factor in setting greens fees. "It needs to be a business decision, not
a political decision." he said. "We don't want to go to low because the golf course has to be self-sustaining." Landon aded
that if rates are to high, golfers will play at other courses. "that is why you have a management company," he said.
In the above Newspaper article it referenced 'Drainage Issues'. We do not have a club what that is all about since Palm
Coast was designed and engineered to withstand a 100 year flood. We walked that course for almost 38 years and never
saw drainage issues, Bill Amick , the original designer would not have left drainage issues, and certainly, Nancy Lopez, would
not have played this course regularly in MUCK. Perhaps something may have come about because of the 'Greenbelt Sales'
and the ' Wetlands Mitigation' since this place became a city .In out opinion, the pond thing was dug because it would be
a water supply since the Pumphouse and other Properties in this Golf Course area was somehow strangely sold then supposedly
*Gifted* or bartered or some such. We wonder how we could be *gifted* for what we already paid for. This is perplexing.
The specific location of the C.B.S. Contemporary Clubhouse we were shown on the 'Company's ' official ;Guided Tour.
|Oak Tree and Palm Demolition of the first Park in Palm Coast, Jan. 2009
|Oak Tree and Palm Demolition of the first Park in Palm Coast Jan. 2009.
|Oak Tree and Palm Demolition at Palm Coasts' first Childs and Neighborhood Park Jan. 2009.
The final demolition of Palm Coast's first Childs and Neighborhood Park - January 2009. Thie specific Park was on ITT
Levitts' official Guided Tour; When purchasing we were told what you see is what you get - Quite Puzzling huh...
|Yet more Oak Tree Demolition....
|Yet more Oak Trees hacked down 02-2009 = what about conservation and preservation per the 1976 FTC?